Wednesday, May 2, 2012

Civil Disobedience

Do you think Civil Disobedience is a good strategy of protest (is it effective), why or why not? Then post the example you found of Civil Disobedience and make an argument as to why it is civil disobedience. You should comment on at least three other posts.

31 comments:

  1. Civil Disobedience was a very good strategy becuase it made people actually think about the situation and show the government that some and even most of the people are willing to go to jail for a very good cuase. The question is was he was opposing the war or the racism of the war? (I personally think he was opposing the racism of the war becuase he said that it was his government and a slaves government).

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    1. By the way my example of civil diobedience was the wall street protests, becuase the residents are pretty much protesting that the poor do not have good support and they are making there own lives more difficult by protesting it.

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    2. Could he have been opposing both the war and the racism of the war? Do you think that he was trying to say that the people and the slaves should have different governments?

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    3. I think it could have gone both ways depending on how you look at it, Jocelyn.

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  2. Yes I definitely think Civil Disobedience is a good strategy as long as you know other people will back you up. Otherwise it is not really effective. Even if not enough people go along with you then at least you made your statement. Then word will get out and you could end up convincing others. So either way I think this is a good strategy. Now I may not agree with always doing it the way Thoreau did by not paying a tax and going to jail. I think the act of civil disobedience should be what ever will attract the most attention for their particular cause. Which going to jail did seem to get the attention Thoreau wanted. The example of civil disobedience I thought of was Rosa Parks refusing to give up her seat on the bus. I would consider this an act of civil disobedience because she broke a rule while standing up for what she believed in causing people to take notice.

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    1. Why do you think Thoreau chose to not pay his poll tax? do you think there might have been more effective ways of doing it?

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    2. Why do you think it's only really effective if people back you up? Do you think its only possible to change/stop something if theirs a crowd of people? Or do you think that just a single individual making a statement can make a change if they work hard enough at it?

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    3. I think Thoreau chose not to pay his toll tax because he knew what would happen if he did not. It was also something that would get attention. I think it depends what it is there against and whose attention they want where the number of people comes into play. If it is trying to get the governments attentions then yes I think depending on how big of a statement it is then that is where more people could be effective.

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    4. I agree, but I also think that there might have been another way of landing himself in jail, I do not think refusing to pay tax was the most effective way of doing it.

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  4. I find the act of civil disobedience to be very affective. It is a respectful but affective way of protesting against something. You find something that is important to the government and everyday life and you act against it, causing disruption. Whether or not other people follow up and continue with your civil disobedient act, it still gives a statement. Then if other people do join you on the act, then great, perhaps you can make the change you want. I think this is a very effective way to protest as long as the person is committed and will follow through with what they started no matter where it will lead them, such as jail like Thoreau. The example of civil disobedience I thought of was Gandhi and his boldest act of civil disobedience, the salt satyagraha. During the time the British was selling and taxing salt to India, where salt was a staple in the people’s diet. Gandhi had found the salt taxation to be outrageous and begun a march to the sea in protest. He had gained thousands and thousands of followers to march to the sea with him, where they would make salt from the sea water. This is an act of civil disobedience because it was a nonviolent way to protest against the taxation.

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    1. Do you think all acts of civil disobedience are done in a respectful way?

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    2. Why do you think civil disobedience was done in a respectful way, was it because he thought the government would do something more harmful than put him in jail?

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  5. I think that Civil Disobedience is a bad strategy because once you are in jail all you are doing is costing the govenment money to keep you alive. There would still be strong government suporters and people who don't want to do any thing. Also the government can do what ever they want to you when your in jail. Like in WW1 in Britian and some other cuntrys lots of people who protested in that way where forced into makeing stuff for the war during the day and throne in jail at night. Violent protes are more affective because it gets the point across.

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    1. I agree with what your saying about it sometimes just causing more trouble then helping you cause and that is a good example showing it. But do you think it depends on what the act of civil disobedience is and what the consequence to that act would be. Because it is not always necessary to go to jail to get the outcome you want and still make a statement.

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    2. Wow, I would have never thought of it that way. I guess I agree with your statement, now knowing that it could back fire on you if you were to go to jail. Do you think there's any other approaches other then protesting and violence?

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    3. I think that you could have lecturs agents what ever you are protesting just to get people to suport what you are doing.

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  6. I think that civil disobedience was a good strategy because it was not a violent way to punish people that did something wrong. I also think it is a good way to protest as long as you are committed. Overall, I think this was a good strategy.

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  7. Civil disobedience is a good strategy as long as there are other people that have your back, other wise it isn't a good strategy. If you have more people to prove the statement the better but otherwise, you still stood up and tried. The example I thought of was Rosa Parks not wanting to give up her seat on the bus. I thought this was an act of civil disobedience because she wanted people to notice that she could fight for what she believed in. For those who don't know Rosa Parks: She stood up on the bus because she was refusing to give up her seat to the opposing race. She thought it was wrong so she was standing up for what was right.

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  8. I think the Civil Disobedience that Thoreau used was the most effective strategy he could use. This way he was not put in prison for a long time, but hes till proved his point. Although this did not effect things on a small scale, on a larger scale this would affect the U.S greatly. I think if people followed Thoreau's example, the war could have been stopped very quickly.

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    1. I agree for that time and place it was a good idea but later on in time when goernments got more power it was not the greates idea.

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  9. I think Civil Disobedience is good because it is a good nonviolent resistance. It's a great way for people to fight for their opinions and still not be greatly harmed. Martin Luther King Junior is a great example of civil disobedience. He believed that all men should be created equal and he fought for what he believed was right in a nonviolent way. It has helped many people and given many rights.

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    1. I agree with you entirely, Maggie. Though I don't know how effective civil disobedience is if you don't have enough people. So it would be effective in MLK's way because he had many people backing him up.

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    2. I agree with you Maggie. People should fight for their opinions and rights. Why did you want to choose Martin Luther King Junior as your example.

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    3. I like what you have to say but I have to agree to disagree. If you remember there was not to much that Martin Luther King Junior acompleished he got suporters and such. But when he was assainatid that is when his campaine really took off because it opend every ones eyes to what was really going on. Violents is a catelis of a lot of things and in lost of situations seams to be unavoidibul at times.

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  10. My opinion on Civil Disobedience is good because it makes people not violent to not punish people. Gandhi was a non violent person that change the world on it views.

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    1. Why did you choose Gandhi? Explain some more on why this is your opinion on civil disobedience...

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    2. I wonder if Martin Luther King Jr. based his ideas on Thoreau as well as Gandhi.

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    3. I wonder if Martin Luther King Jr. based his ideas on Thoreau as well as Gandhi.

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